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    Plebeian Meeting Minutes 24 March 2019

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    Minutes, Plebeian Assembly, 24 March 2019 held at The Rostra.

     

    Present: Tribune Lead Ras Parthicus, Tribunes Popov, Ruggeris Britannicus, Markus Parthicus-Vindelici and Asharr Furius Panius, Senator Janu Shimada Vindelici, ProConsul Agrippa Furius Wassep, Flamen Gaius Quinctius Flamininus, Flamen Ptolemy Furius Falco, HELIOS of Dacia, Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος

     

    NOTE 1: These minutes are a record of reports, proposals submitted and additional items raised from the floor. Because of the nature of the proposals, comments from attendees have been included either directly in the minutes or in the addendum so as to shed more light on the issues.

     

    NOTE 2: During the meeting, in relation to items from the 2018 Tribunate that were being voted on for continuance or not , the chair proposed the motion for Tribunes to vote on.

     

    NOTE 3: Because of lag problems, local chat can often appear disjointed, especially with a number of people trying to talk at once, with comments appearing later in relation to matters already handled.

     

    MEETING OPENED 10.07 am by Tribune Lead.

     

    Tribune Lead Report

    Welcome to this first Plebeian Assembly meeting for the 2019 Tribunate.

    I am Ras Parthicus, Tribune Lead, and I will chair the meeting with my fellow Tribunes Ruggeris Britannicus, Popov, Markus Parthicus-Vindelici and Asharr Furius Panius. We will vote on any issues raised in the Assembly.

    You are welcome to express your thoughts on the issues arising. To do so please say HAND and when recognised by the chair say what you have to say and when finished with your comments say DONE.

    All issues requiring submission to the Senate are voted on at the Plebeian Assembly. (The Private meetings deal with in house Tribunate matters.)

    The following items were unresolved from the 2018 Tribunate submissions. I will put them to the vote at this Plebeian Assembly as to whether we shall still pursue them.

    - Submission re: Urban Design (removal of trees)

    - Building Assistance in Time of Calamities

    - Proposal that the free Romanum clothing in the Welcome pack in the Visitor Centre be upgraded

    - Proposal to widen the Romanum streets and roads allowing chariots.

    - Servi/Slaves

    The Senate did discuss some of the above matters at their last Senators Only meeting prior to the Open Senate Meeting. I have yet to be advised of the outcomes of their discussions.

    The matter concerning the Servi/Slave policy remains with the Emperor but I will raise it at this Plebeian Meeting to gather any more views. DONE

     

    Flamen Gaius Quinctius Flamininus lead a Prayer to the Gods : Ceres, protector of laws and goddess of the Tribunes, watch over these men so that they may carry out their duty and live with dignitas and auctoritas.

    Ita Est

     

    Tribune Lead called on Tribune Ruggeris to provide the latest news on the New Welcome Centre

     

    Tribune Britannicus: The Welcome Centre Mock-up is now in the final stages of completion, awaiting only a few more portraits.

    At a date of Caesar's pleasure, it will be taken down to replace the old WC and its contents. The WC may be closed for a short while this, and the alteration to the door takes place. We hope to make this as short a moment as possible, which is why it was first assembled in the mock-up as far as possible.

     

    It is hoped that, apart from Imperial and Operational items, the individual posters etc. will remain in the Welcome Centre Group, so that each stakeholder in any particular group or item will be able to continually update their own information, as indicated by His Highness at the last Senate meeting, if I have understood Him correctly.

     

    The WC is a community asset and the completion of this stage is just the beginning. It needs to be nurtured and fed as our crops on a farm if it is to bear harvest, and my hope is it will grow and flower as they do.

    As always I pay fulsome tribute to all those who have collaborated time and talent to bring us to this stage: Ras, Ed Ballinger, Popov, all the models for the portraits, the owners of the various posters and of course Great Stephanus himself, may he live for ever. DONE

     

    The Tribune Lead advised that the next item related to the proposals from the 2018 Tribunate that were not completed at the time of that bodies closure. What was needed, was to decide if these items were to continue or not.

     

    The outstanding items were listed together with the note about the Senate

    [2019/03/24 10:23] Ras Parthicus: - Submission re: Urban Design (removal of trees)

    - Building Assistance in Time of Calamities

    - Proposal that the free Romanum clothing in the Welcome pack in the Visitor Centre be upgraded

    - Proposal to widen the Romanum streets and roads allowing chariots.

    - Servi/Slaves

    Note: The Senate did discuss some of the above matters at their last Senators Only meeting prior to the Open Senate Meeting. I have yet to be advised of the outcomes of their discussions.

     

    Tribune Lead - The motion is that the proposal in relation to trees be continued with

    Motion Carried: For 3 Against 0

     

    Tribune Lead - The Motion is that the Propoal in relation to Building Assistance in time of Calamities be continued with

    Motion Lost : For 0 Against 5

     

    Tribune Lead - The Motion is that the Proposal in relation to roads be continued with

    Motion Lost: For 0 Against 4

     

    Tribune Lead said he would move to the proposal in relation to the Servi/Slave Policy - stating that the question is that we continue to press this matter

     

    As Senator Janu Shimada Vindelici had to leave the meeting early, Tribune Popov raised a question on his behalf: "Back in October, a number of us gave up an hour or so, to discuss how we might deal with slavery. I raised this at Senate in January, as there seemed to be no progress. We are now in March, 6 months, with no action.Can I ask who is taking responsibility for this, and if anyone knows when it might progress?"

     

    Tribune Asharr commented - "I would be willing to host a discussion on the policy in April and I want resolution by May so it is sorted once and for all. When I originally came to Romanum there was no issue, now there are competing factions. This will stop. I would wish the consuls and emperor at the meeting"

    Tribune Lead commented - "The issue is not one that individuals can decide - the matter has been with the Emperor for some time - and the last indication was that he was looking at a proposed policy put to him by Mardrakus the Slaver. The idea of raising it at this meeting was to see if there is anything further to add to what was already submitted to that conference."

    Tribune Ruggeris asked a question of Tribune Asharr - "May I ask what these competing factions you mention, are, Asharr?"

    Tribune Asharr responded-"So far from what I see the city has a slaver, Bacchus has slaves, houses have slaves, in the past there have been others who want to train and sell slaves. So each faction has its own ideas and motives. Each wants accommodation."

    Tribune Ruggeris commented - "Yes, that's pretty much exactly what we were attempting to address at the conference that Janu speaks of, in October unfortunately the Emperor decreed the whole issue be delayed until the new year. I believe we might all request the issue be reopened in some form, to at least try again. Better if the Tribune does it as a whole, I think personally."

    Tribune Lead commented: "The Tribunate did put the proposal that a small group be set up to advise him [Emperor] on the policy and if revision was required, but as Rugger said it has been delayed."

    Tribune Lead- then asked "is it the wish of the Assembly that the Tribunate follow up the Servi/Slave policy matter with vigour?"

    Motion Carried For 4 Against 0

     

    Tribune Lead: The following proposal is with the Consuls so the Senate tells me "Proposal that the free Romanum clothing in the Welcome pack in the Visitor Centre be upgraded to a more stylish yet simple garment in tune with 2nd Century fashions. " I will follow up on that - also knowing that a senator has offered to help fund an improved style.

     

    Comments

    Tribune Ruggeris - "The Emperor said directly that while he feels the clothing is adequate for the moment, he doesn't rule out it being replaced if a suitable person could be found to make it. I don't know on the other hand what the Consuls said about this at their meeting. "

    Tribune Lead- "Neither do I but I assume the Emperor would acquiesce if some one was prepared to assist in updating it."

    Tribune Asharr advised the following address for a full permissions Toga - https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/TogaFullPerm/14937446

    Tribune Lead - "Unless anyone has any more to say about that I will follow up on whether a decision has been made - bearing in mind that there are items already available on the market place."

    Note that Ptolemy Furius Falco made reference to a new outfit made and passed to the noble Consul Rad. He was not sure if it was for just Pompeii? Proconsul Agrippa indicated yes."

    HELIOS of Dacia: " Stands and bows to the honoured meeting attendees. I must leave for other matters upon my other estates I wish to thank this body of distinguished gentlemen for allowing me to attend this meeting"

    Tribune Lead " you are welcome Helios - after all, it is the Plebeian Assembly"

     

    Tribune Lead called for any items from the floor

    Gaius Quinctius Flamininus asked the question - "With a new welcome centre, who will be guiding people into roles here? Perhaps there can be a committee? Also could there be a request made to have the rp committees give a report on activities?"

    Tribune Lead - "I believe one of our Tribunes has made that request at the last meeting re the rp committee."

    Tribune Ruggeris - "That would be a question for Zarek."

    Tribune Lead - " We can make enquiries but it is a committee that reports to the Senate."

    Gaius Quinctius Flamininus - "The issue being for new people, which the welcome centre is designed for, saying talk to ____ this is a question for _____ makes you feel like a rubber ball being thrown about. Perhaps the elective officials can form some structure to the process?"

     

    Tribune Ruggeris responded - "Yes I understand how frustrating and annoying it can be. There is so much to explain and its difficult to take a newcomer by the hand and try to fill them in on everything. I will do my best in the new WC but it has limitations of space and info overload. But in the case of RP, Zarek is the head of RP and only he can really issue reports, which I agree is a good idea. We could ask the Tribunate to request he does so if you wish?"

     

    Gaius Quinctius Flamininus - "My nephew has applied for a temple position, As with me there is little structure, little communication, little process. This is not a question of taking people by the hand but having a clear path and clear communications. Structure, versus going round and round. Nothing has been posted in rp for two months? There has to be some accountability and process. Requesting reports help with the communication and is one step."

     

    Comments from the Floor

    ProConsul Agrippa - "My brother Asharr has already put this exact issue before the Senate, at the last Senate meeting. If im not mistaken."

    Tribune Lead - "that is what I was adverting to"

    Tribune Asharr -" I did and it should be in the Senate notes."

    Tribune Lead -" In relation to the Welcome Centre there is still work to be done - The ideal is to have the place manned, but we do not live in an ideal world but the matter can be pursued and if volunteers are available may be we go for it."

    Tribune Asharr - " but also remember that any citizen can create and start an rp without needing the approval of the rp committee."

    Tribune Ruggeris- " It sounds a little if as well as a slave path, we need a priest path."

     

    The Tribune Lead thanked all for their attendance, forbearance and involvement in the meeting and adjourned it at 11.57am

     

     

     

    ADDENDUM - COMMENTS IN RELATION TO DEBATE ON WHETHER CERTAIN PROPOSALS FROM 2018 ARE TO BE CONTINUED WITH OR NOT

     

    Tribune Lead: Just some prior comment - The trees are still standing and the road between Romanum and Pompeii is hard to navigate round corners and stairs - for a chariot

    Tribune Lead: If I remember the first item drew attention to the fact that it was the emperors prerogative to take action if he wanted to - in relation to the trees

    Tribune Popov: related to the trees - although I am against cutting trees down - I noticed that isn't it the new Romanum sim where all the new accommodations are - trees have grown like mushrooms - and it is very confusing

    Tribune Ruggeris: I counted 46 trees there

    Tribune Popov: gosh, as many

    Tribune Ruggeris: each of which is something like 8 prims, reducing them might help the lag in the hippodrome a little

    Tribune Popov: personally, I don't think those trees are necessary

    Tribune Lead: some vital points there would indicate a willingness for the matter to be continued to be resolved

    HELIOS of Dacia: as concerning the trees and chariots does the trees and their placement not allow for a speed limit to be there so as the populace is safe to walk the roads without fear of being run over by the chariots

    HELIOS of Dacia: maybe a speed block would be less prims in the place of the trees

    Senator Janu Shimada Vindelici: How many chariot users have complained?

    Tribune Lead: in relation to the trees - we will deal with them first - the chariots are another issue

    Tribune Lead: I intend trying to put these items to a vote else we be here all day and night

    Tribune Popov: /me doesn't remember seeing many chariots around

    Tribune Lead: I note that Tribune Markus has been whisked away by the Gods

    Tribune Asharr: against removal of trees unless their fuggly

    Tribune Ruggeris: (To clarify this refers to the cypress trees along various paths, rather than trees in general)

    ProConsul Agrippa Furius Wassep: so I would like to say that widening roads for chariots that will barely if ever be ridden on the streets is a crazy thing to do.

    ProConsul Agrippa Furius Wassep: people barely want to ride horses anymore due to the lag.

    Tribune Lead: Before I call on Ixion - the issue is in relation to the Cypress trees along various paths

    Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: I am the proposer of the tree motion

    Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: it has nothing to do with chariots or road widening

    Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: I purely moved from an aesthetic point if view

    Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: the cypress trees are far too large

    ProConsul Agrippa Furius Wassep: yes I would tend to agree

    Tribune Asharr: get smaller versions then

    Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: they obscure the view on many of the fine estates

    ProConsul Agrippa Furius Wassep: that there are quite a few cypress that could be replaced

    Tribune Popov: indeed

    ProConsul Agrippa Furius Wassep: but to widen the roads?

    Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: we live in an urban environment

    Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: there were no trees in central Rome

    Tribune Asharr: Crucifixes then ?

    Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: the proposal is to have them removed

    Tribune Lead: thanks you for clarifying the issue Ixion

    Tribune Lead: and what we are voting on is that the issue be continued to be followed up

    Tribune Asharr: what is the prim differences between trees and statues ?

    ProConsul Agrippa Furius Wassep: A LOT.

    Tribune Lead: those Tribunes in favour please say yes - those against say no

    Tribune Ruggeris: Yes

    Tribune Popov: yes

    Tribune Lead: Asharr?

    Tribune Lead: I will exercise my vote and say Yes

    Tribune Lead: motion carried

     

    Tribune Lead: The next issue was in relation to Building Assistance in time of Calamities

    Tribune Asharr: yes with both points firstly if the trees are to high then get smaller trees simple and as to chariots and roads who drives them and how many are driving where?

    Tribune Lead: please read gentlemen - we are not debating chariots at the moment

    Tribune Asharr: I'm willing to have anyone who is regularly driving chariots contact me lets really see out of the what 600 members are driving and having problems

    Tribune Ruggeris: Could I just return to the original chariot issue to clarify

    Tribune Ruggeris: it wasn't anything about widening roads, in actually

    Tribune Lead: not yet - we will deal with that in a minute when the confusion has stopped

    Tribune Lead: The next issue was in relation to Building Assistance in time of Calamities

    Tribune Ruggeris: ok. Waits

    Tribune Lead: This was put to the Senate early in the piece but nothing has transpired .

    Tribune Lead: is it your wish that we continue with this proposal?

    Senator Janu Shimada Vindelici: I've not seen it, Tribune

    Tribune Lead: Someone is here actually moved it and it was carried by the Assembly

    Tribune Lead: if there are no comments I put it to the Tribunes do you want this matter continued?

    Tribune Ruggeris: This was an item proconsul, then Tribune, Agrippa proposed regarding Pompeii, but Pompeii is now complete, and is therefore no longer relevant.

    Tribune Ruggeris: I believe this should now be dropped.

    Tribune Popov: /me nods

    ProConsul Agrippa Furius Wassep: Agreed.

    Tribune Lead: are Tribunes of the same opine as Ruggeris?

    Tribune Lead: please say yes or no

    Tribune Popov: yes, very much so; I was going to say the same indeed

    Tribune Ruggeris: Yes

    Tribune Popov: yes

    Tribune Lead: Asharr

    Tribune Lead: a yes or a no please

    Tribune Asharr: yes

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: I know much of the trees, I know much of the chariots, but this is rushed without recognition of hands

    Tribune Ruggeris: Im happy to listen to the noble Ptolemy if that's any help

    Tribune Lead: your speech must be in relation to the matter at hand which is whether we continue with the proposal about funding for Calamities and I have already called for a vote from the Tribunes

    Tribune Lead: do you wish to vote for or against the matter Asharr

    Tribune Asharr: the calamities I voted yes earlier

    Tribune Lead: Well then it is carried

    Tribune Asharr: remove it piss it off the schedule

     

    Tribune Lead: we will go to the matter concerning Chariots which was "Proposal to widen the Romanum streets and roads allowing chariots."

     

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: Regarding the roads. The Via Appia was done by me. I have no issue with any changes to the roads. BUT, the Lupercalia proved once again, that any races within Romanum are almost impossible due to lag. Everyone but me just tp'd to the event space because they could not move.

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: Furthermore, chariots are worn, on the avatar.

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: This means that they can climb cliffs if they want. they can climb stairs

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: BUT lag is the ultimate issue with chariots and any kind of racing done. Done.

    Tribune Popov: thanks, as I said earlier beside racing, I don't think I have ever seen a chariot going around Romanum

    Tribune Popov: so I don't really see what is the point of enlarging roads

    Tribune Ruggeris: The issue of chariots was phrased incorrectly somehow and got set in stone, but it was never about widening roads. I tested out the areas that a couple of people had complained about at the time, and it was just that in three or four places the change of level in the road made the chariots stick - specifically the area between the baths and the dock and outside the Bacchus temple where the road goes towards the Via Appia,

    Tribune Ruggeris: It was just that in those few places a small invisible wedge needed to be put to help them over the step.

    Tribune Ruggeris: As regards the Via Appia, I took a chariot down there recently to test, and although it means going slowly, it is passable, except for one small place, where it is indeed not wide enough - where the entrance to the wooden bridge has two bollards and a guard -

    Tribune Ruggeris: If the noble Ptolemy could find it in his heart to move the bollards apart a little and move the guard aside I believe that would also be no problem. Little matters really, no big drama, done.

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: "Sticks" are also caused by the sim crossing which would run the risk of sending them flying off. The bollards and anything else can be moved without issue on the Via. I wold also love to say something about those cypress trees, which is an enormous issue with me.

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: I thank the honorable tribune. The trees are enormously primmed. ENORMOUSLY. they were the wrong trees to use, when made huge.

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: Examples of this are over by the temple of Neptune. 97 prims for 11 trees

    Tribune Markus Parthicus-Vindelici: if there are no more important themes then trees or roads...

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: They can ALL be easily, EASILY replaced by ONE prim trees which can be huge.

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: This is the main issue I think with lag in Romanum

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: It is MASSIVELY over primmed. You must MUST have prim leftover, especially here.

    Ptolemy Furius Falco: again, all the trees can be replaced, very easily. done

    Tribune Lead: Tribunes ready to vote on whether we continue with this matter or not (I assume that local arrangements can be made)

    Tribune Ruggeris: Sorry to use up Time, Ras, but could you be specific upon what we are voting?

    Tribune Lead: All tribunes in favour of continuing with the proposal re roads say Yes - those not say no

    Tribune Popov: No

    Tribune Ruggeris: No

    Tribune Asharr: No

    Tribune Asharr: Tribune Markus?

    Tribune Lead: the No's have it - we will not push that matter any more

    Tribune Asharr: Ras?

    Tribune Lead: (I should have said I vote no)

    Tribune Lead: but Tribunes can chose whether to vote or not

     

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Membership of the Two Romanum Groups 19 Jul 19 03 Sep 19 28 Sep 19 Net change 03-28 Sep Empire of Romanum 662 661 661 (2 joined, 2 left) Romanum VIPs 1257 1272 1273 (12 joined, 11 left) Visitors to the Romanum Welcome Centre since June 2019: 1237 Ras Parthicus Tribune Lead xxix.ix.cxlix" During presentation of the Tribune Lead Report, Tribune Ruggeris noted – regarding item c – that transferring funds from one person to another using zCS requires them to stand very near each other. He raised the questions of whether this might make betting more difficult and whether the distance between participants can be altered by the administrator of the zCS system. Lead Tribune Parthicus said that the distance had not yet been determined but that perhaps the person taking any bets would have to remain in a set place for bettors to transfer coins to him. Tribune Lead said he would follow up on Tribune Ruggeris’ suggestion. After presentation of the Report, Tribune Ruggeris noted that 14 new members between the two Romanum groups (2 in Empire, 12 in VIPs) represented an approximate 1% increase based on the 1237 visitors to the Welcome Centre. Lead Tribune ventured that this might be a positive indicator given the seeming lack of people in Romanum and elsewhere. Discussion Topic IF I WAS ABLE TO IMPLEMENT ONE THING IN ROMANUM THAT WOULD MAKE LIFE EVEN BETTER, IT WOULD BE... Due to the lack of Citizen attendance, this scheduled discussion topic was not raised. General Business Tribune Lead announced that Tribune Asharr has resigned his office. The matter is with the Emperor to decide if we shall have a by-election to fill the position. The Emperor's Ball will be held 19th October at 12 Noon in the Palace. Officers of the Empire have been invited to be a part of the Emperor's Grand procession into the Ball. This is the Ceremonial Entrance into the Ball. All Citizens are invited to the Ball. Mr Romanum quest is planned for November 2019. Volunteers are needed to ensure this event takes place. Tribune Ruggeris informed the meeting that The Emperor has advised that Proconsul Ausus and Flamen Sky will be building new accommodations for the Bacchus slaves. In that light, Bacchus dances will now take place in the ruins in the wildlife park until further notice. Tribune Ruggeris suggested an aquatic ballet to music be staged by Jin for the next Neptunalia. Tribune Lead noted that the remainder of this year will see the Ball, the Mr Romanum Quest and Saturnalia and that Jin will need support with these activities. Tribune Lead thanked Tribunes and Citizen for their attendance and input. Tribune Lead Ras Parthicus closed the meeting at 8:51. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please Note: The Scribe has prepared a Verbatim copy of the Meeting Proceedings for those who were not able to be present at the Meeting. It is available from the Tribunate Notice dispenser.
    • Ras Parthicus
      Sep 11

      Present: Tribune Lead Ras Parthicus, Tribunes Ruggeris Britannicus and Popov; Citizens duracuir, Sir HELIOS of Dacia , Boby of Collinwood; Scribe Joby. Tribune Lead opened the meeting at 8:06 am and led with an opening prayer. "All Mighty Gods, who watch over the Emperor and his husband Reg and over all the people of Romanum, hear our pleas for your continued blessings on us all and help this Assembly serve the people wisely." Ita Est Items from Citizens RP ENHANCEMENT PROJECT FOR ROMANUM proposed by Ix Parthicus ἸΞΊΩΝ ΠΑΡΘΙΚΟΣ: "I want to propose that the Tribunate adopts the motion to have the zCS [RP hud] made generally available to Romanum citizens, and puts it to the Senate for implementation and oversight." Tribune Ruggeris moved that the proposal be adopted and Tribune Popov seconded the motion. In support of the proposal, Ix included explanations that the zCS would allow those in Romanum to "express a more specific role visible to others which is not available in general Romanum group membership tags. It has fighting, defence, healing, health capabilities like other formats of RP huds have that are already in use by gladiators and legionnaires at the moment, but zCS has civilian applications too. It would make life in the city a little more unpredictable regards who you meet and what their intentions are." He added that another hud feature is the generation of RP money (not to be confused with linden) that has RP possibilities. An amendment was proposed by Tribune Ruggeris and agreed to by the seconder Tribune Popov and became the substantive motion "that the Senate or Consulate (whichever appropriate) consider making available the zCS meter to citizens for the enhancement of RP, in particular its use of notional RP money, and if approved, the Meter be adopted optionally for a trial period." After lengthy discussion of potential benefits and whether the hud should be compulsory, the amended proposal was passed by a vote of 2-1 (Tribune Lead Ras and Tribune Ruggeris AYE, Tribune Popov NAY). Tribune Lead said that he would forward the original proposal with the amended motion of the Plebeian Assembly and an extract of the meeting's debate for the Senate's information. Items from Tribunes No items were raised for discussion. Tribune Lead Report "Ave Tribunes and Citizens of Rome. a) Welcome Centre i) Video Competition - The Duration of the Competition was extended to 31 August 2019. Prizes are First 10,000 L and Second 5,500 L . No Entries have been received yet. ii) Free Outfit - discussions still to be held with the Emperor concerning including an additional free toga in the Welcome Centre giveaway kit, b) Items Outstanding from 2018 Tribunate i) Submission re:Urban Design (removal of trees) still to be discussed with the Emperor. c) Items arising from the Plebeian Assembly Meeting 28 July 2019. Discussions have been held with Senator Tybalt about ways of involving citizens attending the Chariot Races. Some suggestions need testing as to how they can be incorporated into/with the races and assistance from citizens would be required. The suggestion concerning horse races would also need persons to assist. Visits to a number of private and public places are to be arranged as and when these can be organised with citizens willing to open their homes. Visitors to the Romanum Welcome Centre as of 11 August 2019: 683 25 August 2019: 852 " Per Tribune Lead, the Romanum presence at Pride was still attracting visitors as of a week ago. With additional events presumably planned for the Pride space, Romanum has an opportunity to decide how to use that space over the next several months. Discussion Topic IF I WAS ABLE TO IMPLEMENT ONE THING IN ROMANUM THAT WOULD MAKE LIFE EVEN BETTER, IT WOULD BE... Due to the meeting length, this topic was postponed until the next meeting. General Business There was no general business arising. Tribune Lead thanked Tribunes and Citizens for their attendance and input. Tribune Lead Ras Parthicus closed the meeting at 9:49. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please Note: The Scribe has prepared a Verbatim copy of the Meeting Proceedings. It is available from the Tribunate Notice dispenser (near the front door to the Tribunate Room.