Conference Concerning the Acquisition, Training, Allocation and
Retention of Slaves in Romanum
Held at the Homines de Arts' Theatre,
1pm Saturday 6th October 2018
Emperor Stephanus Galtier, Ras Parthicus, Ruggeris Britannicus, Sen. D. Rad Parthicus, Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος, Sexus The Oracle, Quinttin,
Sen. Janu Shimada Vindelici, Sen. Sƚҽϝ Eɳԃɾιαɠσ Aɳƚσɳιυʂ Dɾαƙσɳ, Cassius
GaryMike Maximus, Jin Prince of Han, Insatiable Dionysus, Ruin Ernshaw,
Sen. Cato Leone-Redrose O'Black™, Williams Kaliopov, Lou, Sen. Miles Maximus, duracuir, Ptolemy Confero Antonius, Axel
Co Chairmen: Tribune Lead Ras Parthicus and Tribune Ruggeris Britannicus
[2018/10/06 13:08] Ras Parthicus: Ave Conferees we will get this Conference under way
[2018/10/06 13:08] Ras Parthicus: ave Dionysus
[2018/10/06 13:08] D. Rad Parthicus: Ave Cato, Dio
[2018/10/06 13:08] DJ Cato Leone-Redrose O'Black™: Avete omnes
[2018/10/06 13:09] Ras Parthicus: Greetings My Emperor, Consuls, Proconsuls, Senators, Tribunes, Office Bearers, Citizens of Romanum, Friends of Romanum and Servi.
[2018/10/06 13:09] Ras Parthicus: My Co Chairman Ruggeris and I welcome you to this Special Conference Concerning the Acquisition, Training, Allocation and Retention of Slaves in Romanum. The Tribunate is facilitating this conference because it believes that trained, willing and healthy servi are an important part in the daily life of Romanum.
[2018/10/06 13:09] Ras Parthicus: If you wish to speak or ask a question, after the key note speakers, please do it through the Chair and say HAND and DONE when you have finished. Without trying to curtail speech, we ask that you be succinct and courteous in your address or question to the conference.
[2018/10/06 13:10] Ras Parthicus: If you have a document you wish to distribute to the conference, you may distribute it yourself or send it to me (full permissions with your name as the title) and I will place it in the document dispensers.
[2018/10/06 13:10] Ras Parthicus: In the document dispensers are a number of Conference documents
(same in each) that you may either download as a folder or chose individual ones.
[2018/10/06 13:10] Ras Parthicus: This conference is not a decision making body, but we have decision makers here and the deliberations will be recorded and passed on to the relevant bodies.
[2018/10/06 13:11] Ras Parthicus: Thank you for being here.
[2018/10/06 13:11] Ras Parthicus: Ras Parthicus and Ruggeris Britannicus co Chairmen
[2018/10/06 13:11] Ras Parthicus: I now will pray to seek the Gods' pleasure with an opening prayer.
[2018/10/06 13:12] Ras Parthicus: /me We seek the wisdom and the patience of the Gods' throughout this Conference so that we may come to the right decisions for Romanum and it's slaves.
[2018/10/06 13:12] Ras Parthicus: ita est
[2018/10/06 13:12] Janu Shimada Vindelici: Ita est
[2018/10/06 13:12] Ruggeris Britannicus: ITA EST
[2018/10/06 13:12] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: ita est
[2018/10/06 13:13] GaryMike Maximus: Ita est
[2018/10/06 13:13] Ras Parthicus: I now pass the gong to Ruggeris
[2018/10/06 13:14] Ruggeris Britannicus: First I invite our great Emperor to make any opening remarks he may choose
[2018/10/06 13:14] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Thank you....
[2018/10/06 13:14] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Give me a few minutes here to give some history and ideas...
[2018/10/06 13:15] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: First, I want to express my thanks to Ruggeris and Ras for conducting this conference...
[2018/10/06 13:15] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: I also want to thank those parties most interested in this subject for being here...
[2018/10/06 13:15] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Let me give you all a brief history of where Romanum has been at regarding slaves...
[2018/10/06 13:16] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: In 2011 we developed a so-called slave policy (enclosed in the document giver and on our website)...
[2018/10/06 13:17] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: The basic gist of the policy was to help those who wish to be a slave to know what to do and where to go..
[2018/10/06 13:17] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Some come in already with a master chosen..
[2018/10/06 13:17] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Many do not have a master..
[2018/10/06 13:18] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: We never wanted to interfere in any pre-existing master/slave relationship..
[2018/10/06 13:18] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: So, the two main components of our policy was to help unattached slaves find a master..
[2018/10/06 13:18] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: and to offer specialized training for how to be a slave..
[2018/10/06 13:19] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: That training was available to all who wanted to be a slave..
[2018/10/06 13:19] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: attached and unattached...
[2018/10/06 13:19] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: For a time, in 2011, this policy was well implemented and we had to great guys (Bear and Timmy) who trained slaves...
[2018/10/06 13:20] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Then they left and our slave treatment became a bit confused..
[2018/10/06 13:21] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: We have today people who are keenly interested in helping slaves find homes and being trained..
[2018/10/06 13:21] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Now, our current slaver, Mardrakus, is primarily interested in helping slaves find homes, but not in training..
[2018/10/06 13:22] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: I see no issue with that..
[2018/10/06 13:22] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: I think we can come at this from two angles..
[2018/10/06 13:22] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: One, Mardrakus continues his "matching service" and Two, someone else helps train slaves...
[2018/10/06 13:23] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: I am well aware there are other entities in Romanum dealing with slaves, like Bacchus..
[2018/10/06 13:23] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: I believe we can find accommodations for all these entities..
[2018/10/06 13:24] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: But none of this will work until we all agree on an overall policy and most importantly we have committed volunteers to do the required activities...
[2018/10/06 13:24] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: With that said, I will sit back and let you all discuss this. Thank you. DONE
[2018/10/06 13:26] Ruggeris Britannicus: 'Unfortunately, I cannot attend the conference to discuss slavery in Romanum. The specific date and time would not work for me because I will be traveling for a few days. I have created this note card to share some of my perspectives.
Before I accepted the position of Slaver in Romanum, the Emperor and I had a discussion about slavery in the Empire and my concerns.
[2018/10/06 13:26] Ruggeris Britannicus: Because slavery in Romanum is a consensual roleplay and not actual indentured servitude, my opinion is that such relationships must be developed by and defined by individuals in them. I have heard comments from many people in both SL and RL debating who is genuine, real, authentic or how things should be. Such conversations create drama and can chip away at a community.
As such relationships are unique to those in them, trying to establish some type universal definition or Master/slave roleplay would create problems. In my opinion, it is not productive to try to create a system to shoehorn people into when it is more important that they define the parameters of their dynamic for themselves without the judgment and expectations of others.
[2018/10/06 13:27] Ruggeris Britannicus: Problems arise because some individuals would not subscribe to the tenants and stereotypes of a universal system of slave training and protocol while others feel alienated because their personal vision of this type of what they seek in a Master/slave relationship may be different from the system in place.
For example, my servus in Romanum, who happens to be a gladiator, does not fit the stereotype of the passive bottom who is boyish or effeminate. As a result, he has received comments from others telling him he is not really a slave because he does not fit their preconceived image. Others in Romanum, even a Senator, have remarked that Romanum does not even have slaves because they are thinking of the Gorean model of forced roleplay.
[2018/10/06 13:27] Ruggeris Britannicus: (I find it ironic that gladiators actually were owned slaves but a masculine powerful man who is owned as a slave is told that he doesn't act like one.)
In addition, in early 2018, the Emperor asked me to rewrite the Romanum servus policy to update the one from 2011. I provided the Emperor a draft that outlined the direction that I wanted to take slavery in Romanum with the understanding that he would introduce it into the Senate. For whatever reason, I am not sure this ever happened.
[2018/10/06 13:28] Ruggeris Britannicus: When crafting the revision, I wanted to move away from universal training and slave kennels, so I installed an automated servus and dominus matching system in the slaver office. This system – which is intended for people to post personal ads about they are seeking in a consensual Dominus/servus relationship – has not gained wide spread acceptance. If this system is to remain in place, I could definitely use help marketing it others.
If the leaders of Romanum decide that they desire more active slave training or a different approach to slavery in the Empire, I would welcome the opportunity to discuss it. However, if their vision is not something that I feel comfortable with, I can certainly step down from the Slaver position so someone more suitable can implement it."
[2018/10/06 13:28] Ruggeris Britannicus: I am pleased to see Quinttin is here, to represent him in spirit
[2018/10/06 13:28] Ruggeris Britannicus: Sexus?
[2018/10/06 13:28] Quinttin: hand (( I also have some remarks ) ))
[2018/10/06 13:29] Quinttin: ((for latter))
[2018/10/06 13:29] Sexus The Oracle: Firstly I have to say I applaud Mardrakus for his efforts
[2018/10/06 13:29] Sexus The Oracle: and the Emperor for stating his boundaries
[2018/10/06 13:29] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: HAND
[2018/10/06 13:30] Sexus The Oracle: I ask if it is common knowledge that slaves are now not accepted as trainees freely, as I had envisioned when I created Bacchus
[2018/10/06 13:30] Ruggeris Britannicus: Have you finished, Sexus?
[2018/10/06 13:31] Sexus The Oracle: they are at times charged to be listed, and pay to be sold by people,.. this is not a very plausible situation, for reasons I wish to elucidate
[2018/10/06 13:31] Sexus The Oracle: no
[2018/10/06 13:31] Sexus The Oracle: I want to point out that there is policy and there is incentive
[2018/10/06 13:32] Sexus The Oracle: to be a slave the policy we , as administrators have written, the incentive is by individuals'
[2018/10/06 13:32] Ruggeris Britannicus: Sexus, could you please hold these remarks until Cato himself has spoken?
[2018/10/06 13:32] Sexus The Oracle: lol certainly
[2018/10/06 13:32] Ruggeris Britannicus: Protocol determines I call upon the Emperor next
[2018/10/06 13:33] Ruggeris Britannicus: (apologies to Quinttin)
[2018/10/06 13:33] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Sorry to interrupt. I gave Ruggeris the draft slave policy Mardrakus wrote this year
[2018/10/06 13:33] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Done
[2018/10/06 13:33] Ruggeris Britannicus: Thank you, Sire, I have not had a moment to peruse that yet
[2018/10/06 13:33] Ruggeris Britannicus: Do you desire that is read out?
[2018/10/06 13:33] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: No, just put it in the document holder
[2018/10/06 13:34] Janu Shimada Vindelici: /me whispers Do we need to read it, now?"
[2018/10/06 13:34] Sexus The Oracle: hand
[2018/10/06 13:35] Ruggeris Britannicus: (Ras will place it in the doc giver)
[2018/10/06 13:35] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: No Janu
[2018/10/06 13:35] Janu Shimada Vindelici: Hand
[2018/10/06 13:35] Ras Parthicus: (It is in there now)
[2018/10/06 13:35] Quinttin: (( not at all I would prefer to wait - I had just responded to your " here in spirit" comment please I will reraise my hand when its appropriate I have not been at one of these))
[2018/10/06 13:35] Janu Shimada Vindelici: /me withdraws hand Thanks Sire
[2018/10/06 13:35] Ruggeris Britannicus: Thank you Quinttin
[2018/10/06 13:35] Ruggeris Britannicus: Sexus?
[2018/10/06 13:36] Sexus The Oracle: I wish to comment if we are spoon fed policy we will be here all night
[2018/10/06 13:36] Sexus The Oracle: done
[2018/10/06 13:36] Ruggeris Britannicus: I'd make your cocoa now if I were you
[2018/10/06 13:36] Ruggeris Britannicus: I invite Pontifex Cato to make any remarks he feels he wishes to
[2018/10/06 13:36] Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: /me is wearing his bib
[2018/10/06 13:37] Jin Prince of Han: chuckles behind his hand
[2018/10/06 13:38] Ras Parthicus: ave Senator Miles
[2018/10/06 13:38] Ruggeris Britannicus: Ave Sen Miles
[2018/10/06 13:38] Sexus The Oracle: ave miles
[2018/10/06 13:38] Sexus The Oracle: welcome
[2018/10/06 13:38] Miles Maximus: Avete everyone. Sorry I'm late
[2018/10/06 13:38] GaryMike Maximus: Ave Father Miles
[2018/10/06 13:38] Janu Shimada Vindelici: Ave Senator
[2018/10/06 13:39] Ruggeris Britannicus: Cato, do you wish to speak?
[2018/10/06 13:40] Ruggeris Britannicus: Very well, we will continue for the moment
[2018/10/06 13:40] DJ Cato Leone-Redrose O'Black™: no thanks at the moment
[2018/10/06 13:40] Ruggeris Britannicus: The slave situation is a complex one
[2018/10/06 13:40] Ruggeris Britannicus: it seems to encompass many different aspects
[2018/10/06 13:43] Cassius: My Emperor, guests--I am but a simple slave the problem of servus in Romanum is NOT complex, it is a matter of how do new people coming to Romanum contact the things and places they are looking ofor
[2018/10/06 13:43] Janu Shimada Vindelici: My personal view is this.
[2018/10/06 13:43] Janu Shimada Vindelici: Sorry -Cassius - Go on
[2018/10/06 13:43] Cassius: most come to Romanum intrigued with old Rome
[2018/10/06 13:44] Cassius: looking for crowds, or maybe being a gladiator---
[2018/10/06 13:44] Cassius: but look right now
[2018/10/06 13:44] Cassius: at the event board in kthe welcome center
[2018/10/06 13:44] Cassius: how does a newbie get to any of the events listed
[2018/10/06 13:45] Cassius: the answer is --he doesn't
[2018/10/06 13:45] Sexus The Oracle: here here
[2018/10/06 13:45] Cassius: why?
[2018/10/06 13:46] Cassius: because the assumption is he will first go for the welcome pack--and not look for immediate population to interface with
[2018/10/06 13:46] Cassius: ----that is MY position , being new servus to Romanum
[2018/10/06 13:47] Cassius: (please excuse my poor typing)
[2018/10/06 13:47] Ruggeris Britannicus: You point being- that the welcome pack is inadequate, or that he receives not enough interaction from others?
[2018/10/06 13:47] Cassius: (sits back down)
[2018/10/06 13:47] D. Rad Parthicus: or both
[2018/10/06 13:47] Sexus The Oracle: hand. to add to Cassius's statement
[2018/10/06 13:47] Ruggeris Britannicus: Janu is next
[2018/10/06 13:48] Janu Shimada Vindelici: My personal view is this.
[2018/10/06 13:48] Jin Prince of Han: (hand)
[2018/10/06 13:48] Janu Shimada Vindelici: We need to make potential slaves welcome.
[2018/10/06 13:48] Janu Shimada Vindelici: . Personally, I didn’t know that Mardrakus was running a matching service. I usually refer people to Miles. Or offer a temporary post in my house, till they can find someone.
[2018/10/06 13:49] Janu Shimada Vindelici: I will make sure I direct them to him in future.
[2018/10/06 13:49] Janu Shimada Vindelici: This is part of a wider problem of encouraging people to stay. in Romanum
[2018/10/06 13:49] Janu Shimada Vindelici: I’ve read various suggestions for this meeting. I encourage training, but don’t think this should be compulsory. I think any training programme should be agreed by a few relevant people.
[2018/10/06 13:49] Sexus The Oracle: here here
[2018/10/06 13:49] Janu Shimada Vindelici: I have read proposals for charging potential domini.
[2018/10/06 13:50] Janu Shimada Vindelici: A lot of us give a great deal of time in so many ways. As the Emperor said, this is voluntary.
[2018/10/06 13:50] Quinttin: I suppose now is as good a time as any for the HAND
[2018/10/06 13:53] Sexus The Oracle: we are living by rues and policy we, as participators and administrators, myself included, created, and we are NOT incentiizing either slaves or others to come here by setting up charges and rules and programs of necessity
[2018/10/06 13:53] Cassius: roleplay is what we all want--nobody goes to empty sims---let newbies go dirent to events, and then stay and roleplay
[2018/10/06 13:53] Ruggeris Britannicus: Order please
[2018/10/06 13:53] Sexus The Oracle: we should be allowing some rules to be created by slaves and to allow the teaching by slaves and experienced ones who have been here
[2018/10/06 13:54] Cassius: )(sits)
[2018/10/06 13:54] DJ Cato Leone-Redrose O'Black™: RL up my butt (yes pun) I must leave BUT hope to get scroll of meeting.
[2018/10/06 13:56] Quinttin: as was said, Mardrakus asked me to be here because, unfortunately, he is traveling. His time has been limited the past month or so because he oversees part of his state's emergency disaster response and has been dealing with preparation and aftermath of hurricane damage.
[2018/10/06 13:56] Quinttin: I have also been off for a couple months. I tore my rotator cuff and have been in a type of sling that makes the keyboard extra challenging - but am working myself back in.
[2018/10/06 13:56] Quinttin: But I wanted to also add something to Mardrakus' notecard, from my perspective, addressing slave RP more generally, speaking as an experienced RPer who came to Romanum partly to hoping to find and build slave RP.
[2018/10/06 13:57] Quinttin: I came to be here as a slave as the result of a personal challenge with Mardrakus. It was that that brought me to Romanum. I would not have likely RPed as a slave or possibly even have come here, otherwise. My guess is that the majority of rp couples in SL come together like this; whether Dominus/Servus or any other sort of pair: They meet at some event or other, discover something in common and then follow through on it.
[2018/10/06 13:57] Quinttin: I apologize for the length of my remarks but at least they are pre-typed for you )
[2018/10/06 13:57] Cassius: (listens intently to Quinttin)
[2018/10/06 13:57] Quinttin: In my case, I thought (and still think) it would be fun to RP something along the lines of a Roman gladiator - strong and dominant, but enslaved nevertheless. That is what interested me.
[2018/10/06 13:58] Ruggeris Britannicus: Yes, the Emperor outlined that such relationships are encouraged and not in dispute by this conference
[2018/10/06 13:58] Quinttin: Of course there are a lot of ways to RP a slave, they may be dominant or submissive, eager to please or interested in being made to obey. Some of us are interested in RP, for others this is more of a social setting or even a sort of dating. But I agree with the thrust of Mardrakus' note that people decide these things for themselves and that any one idea on how to train or what to train would miss a large swath of other potentially good RPers, not to mention the logistical issues that arise with different schedules and time zones. No matter what the group may decide, its hard to imagine a kennel being staffed ready to shepherd a prospective slave 24/7.
[2018/10/06 13:58] Ruggeris Britannicus: I wish there were more of them
[2018/10/06 13:58] Quinttin: I do have some ideas to share with you in a moment taht might help along these lines, but first I wanted to mention something else that is related and underlies
[2018/10/06 13:59] Ixion Parthicus Ἰξίων Παρθίκος: (withdraws hand, has to go RL) vale
[2018/10/06 13:59] Quinttin: When I first got here, I was surprised to encounter some hostility towards my playing a slave as I did. I was told by some, even, that slavery was not appreciated or encouraged at Romanum. I was told more than once to remove my collar to attend events, even in one case, by a senator. All of this was a bit discouraging to a newcomer. aside form Cassius excellent point about wanting to participate in something immidiately
[2018/10/06 13:59] Ruggeris Britannicus: Vale Ixion, sorry to lose you
[2018/10/06 13:59] Quinttin: So my first observation would be that there should be no question but that in Romanum, slavery RP is encouraged. IMO It should also be a given that there is more than one way to play a slave. So long as a person is trying to do something that fits into the framework of Romanum, there can be more than one sort of servus.
[2018/10/06 14:00] Quinttin: My second observation is that, there are not enough events designed to encourage Slave RP and introduce those that want to play slaves with those that might want to RP owning them. Here are some things have seen work at other sims:
[2018/10/06 14:00] Quinttin: - Short term Slave auctions
[2018/10/06 14:00] Quinttin: - Slave/servis hunts (participating servi wear a armband and try to hide, Dominus's hunt them, steal form each other, gather them up to a central place for points). These sorts of things can build camaraderie among the slaves and dominus alike
[2018/10/06 14:00] Quinttin: - Pit fights for slaves where winners might have their way with losers as a prize. Or there could be events where Domini and servis spar against one another before a crowd for bragging rights or other prizes ( Ty and I have discussed this at some length and I am willing to help train slaves if we can get enough interest),
[2018/10/06 14:00] Quinttin: - Pit fights for slaves where winners might have their way with losers as a prize. Or there could be events where Domini and servis spar against one another before a crowd for bragging rights or other prizes ( Ty and I have discussed this at some length and I am willing to help train slaves if we can get enough interest),
[2018/10/06 14:01] Quinttin: - the formation of slave " houses" that offer specialized slave training around specific events - like your Baccus festivals for example, but there could also be houses organized to support gladiatorial or domestic events as well.
[2018/10/06 14:01] Quinttin: I am nearing the end, I swear
[2018/10/06 14:01] GaryMike Maximus: /me makes note of these great ideas
[2018/10/06 14:01] Jin Prince of Han: smiles
[2018/10/06 14:01] Ruggeris Britannicus: These are all very good thoughts
[2018/10/06 14:02] Sexus The Oracle: hand
[2018/10/06 14:02] Cassius: ---and newbies arriving in Romanum will find these events? how?
[2018/10/06 14:03] Quinttin: My last thought is that we really dont have any idea if a system like the matching system works to link up Domini and servi. Ideally probably it would work with more support, and in conjunction with an overall consensus about acceptable dominus and servus roles, and maybe most important, events that make it seem fun to participate. If you went with the " house" idea, you could have the slaver act as a sort of Coordinator of the various ideas that people might have around events and festivals and other interests... the idea would be that someone would help organize these efforts to make a coherent whole
[2018/10/06 14:03] Quinttin: done
[2018/10/06 14:03] Ruggeris Britannicus: Cassius, you must observe the hand convention
[2018/10/06 14:05] Sexus The Oracle: As I was saying, previous to someone having a radical problem with something up his BUTT, we are the ones making policy, Quintin has a very good idea
[2018/10/06 14:06] Sexus The Oracle: in that we do not allow the slaves to have a say in their rules
[2018/10/06 14:06] Sexus The Oracle: nor doe we make any attempt to try and protect them from being misused by persons seeking to profit from them
[2018/10/06 14:07] Sexus The Oracle: why is it we do NOT have a committee made up of slaves to suggest policy
[2018/10/06 14:07] Sexus The Oracle: and then help set up as JIN is doing, courses to educate them
[2018/10/06 14:08] Ruggeris Britannicus: The education you mention would be voluntary, would it?
[2018/10/06 14:08] Sexus The Oracle: why are we making up rules and not realizing it is NOT slavery in Romanum that is Complex but the individual desires which are done
[2018/10/06 14:08] Sexus The Oracle: has to be voluntary
[2018/10/06 14:08] Sexus The Oracle: of necessity
[2018/10/06 14:09] Sexus The Oracle: done
[2018/10/06 14:09] Ruggeris Britannicus: I dont want to start an argument over whether it is complex or not, the complexity arises from the various views and institutions and individuals needed to run the entire thing
[2018/10/06 14:10] Jin Prince of Han: I first want to say I agree with Quinttin and Cassius, you both bring up very good points. I also want to say that my motive in wanting to train servi is a bit selfish. My goal is to recruit for the theater. As we all know actors were slaves in Rome.
[2018/10/06 14:10] Jin Prince of Han: I have many years of training and experience in serving and entertaining, mostly in an Oriental setting but the foundation in basically the same.
[2018/10/06 14:10] Sexus The Oracle: nods
[2018/10/06 14:11] Jin Prince of Han: A Servus is not merely a collared naked men on his knees waiting for sex. There are many types of slaves.
[2018/10/06 14:11] Ruggeris Britannicus: As Quinttin says
[2018/10/06 14:11] Jin Prince of Han: A good Servus is one that is humble, respects hierarchy and is an example of pride to the master and family to which he belongs to. This is what I want to bring to Romanum.
[2018/10/06 14:11] Cassius: hand
[2018/10/06 14:11] Jin Prince of Han: Because of my knowledge in this field, I am interested in overseeing and mentoring new servus who enter Romanum.
[2018/10/06 14:12] Jin Prince of Han: I can provide lodging, classroom space, along with hosting events to introduce Servus to potential owners.
[2018/10/06 14:12] Jin Prince of Han: The enrolled Servi will have weekly classes in Roleplay, Servi etiquette, pleasure, as well as entertaining
[2018/10/06 14:12] Jin Prince of Han: They will assist the Homines De Ars by serving at Convivium, symposiums, private parties, theater productions, pleasuring patrons privately and attending orgies.
[2018/10/06 14:13] Jin Prince of Han: If the Servi wishes to stay with the Homines De Ars after completing the training they will go on and have classes in the performing arts where eventually they will be come a palace performer, similar to a courtier or courtesan who is essentially owned by the palace. . Hopefully helping us to enrich our theater in the process.
[2018/10/06 14:13] Jin Prince of Han: If the Servi wishes to be sold they can go to auction and the funds paid will go to the house and a tax of 10% to the Palace.
[2018/10/06 14:14] Sexus The Oracle: for a trained servi
[2018/10/06 14:14] Jin Prince of Han: I also would like to employ teachers who on a rotation and in different time zones will hold classes at the Parthicus Inn. The proposed teachers will come through the Colegium.
[2018/10/06 14:14] Sexus The Oracle: hand
[2018/10/06 14:14] Jin Prince of Han: The goal is to retain new people who have a wish to join us here, with engaging activities that create bonds and lasting friendships.
[2018/10/06 14:14] Insatiable Dionysus: hand
[2018/10/06 14:14] Jin Prince of Han: and get ACTORS laughs
[2018/10/06 14:15] Ruggeris Britannicus: It is good to see such a wealth of interest and thinking in this area, but some kind of order must be brought to it. Some kind of shape or path by some means or it is all just people in different corners trying to do different things independently. We have a wealth of options open to us, but the puzzle is how to fit them together cohesively.
[2018/10/06 14:15] Jin Prince of Han: Smiles a my ginger buddy
[2018/10/06 14:15] Ruin Ernshaw: claps politely
[2018/10/06 14:15] Ruggeris Britannicus: I now pass chairmanship to Ras, and Rad is next to speak
[2018/10/06 14:15] Ras Parthicus: I call on Senator Rad
[2018/10/06 14:16] D. Rad Parthicus: So much has been said here and I want to commend the speakers. As one of the Consuls I am very glad to be hearing a variety of perspective.
[2018/10/06 14:16] D. Rad Parthicus: I especially want to respond to Cassius' questions about new arrivals and note that this is a problem for all new arrivals, not only those wishing to RP as servi. I think we can take a closer examination of how we welcome people and how we connect them with our community, but at a later time than today.
[2018/10/06 14:16] Cassius: (nods appreciatively at Rad for his support)
[2018/10/06 14:17] D. Rad Parthicus: I also want to encourage us to be wary of the too many chefs model... we have expertise and investment on this that we should use.
[2018/10/06 14:17] D. Rad Parthicus: Ras and his ex Jovian actually ran a very successful slave training school a couple years back. Cato, Mardrakus, many servi like my own Ixion are very invested in the community and I think that we need not reinvent the wheel, but perhaps look to the past, look forward to the future and build and adjust as needed/wanted. I suggest one outcome of this meeting is to get a working group together that consists of slaves and some community leaders to really put some meat on this ideas.
[2018/10/06 14:18] D. Rad Parthicus: We are not going to be able to write an entire policy today, but can see this as a kick into action for a smaller group to take on the issue and come to the leadership with a strong draft.
[2018/10/06 14:18] D. Rad Parthicus: Done.
[2018/10/06 14:18] Ras Parthicus: Your Suggestions are noted Senator
[2018/10/06 14:18] Ras Parthicus: Cassius
[2018/10/06 14:19] Cassius: thank yo---
[2018/10/06 14:19] Cassius: I wish to see changes made at the welcome center
[2018/10/06 14:20] Cassius: that allow newbies to go direct to events and participate --with out such a direct method, we lose them
[2018/10/06 14:20] Cassius: done
[2018/10/06 14:20] Ras Parthicus: thank you Cassius
[2018/10/06 14:21] Ras Parthicus: Sexus is next I believe
[2018/10/06 14:21] Sexus The Oracle: it is very clear to me we have people who wish to keep things a s they are and protect their interests, and I would like to point out that I created Bacchus and trained it's current master to operate it
[2018/10/06 14:22] Ruggeris Britannicus: Hand
[2018/10/06 14:22] Sexus The Oracle: and in so doing set a precedent for controlling things from above for which I am ashamed
[2018/10/06 14:22] Sexus The Oracle: done
[2018/10/06 14:22] Jin Prince of Han: hand
[2018/10/06 14:22] Ras Parthicus: Ruggeris
[2018/10/06 14:22] Ruggeris Britannicus: Two observations
[[2018/10/06 14:23] Ruggeris Britannicus: First, Mardrakus's matching system: why is it not used more?
[2018/10/06 14:23] Ruggeris Britannicus: Is it in the wrong location?
[2018/10/06 14:23] Sexus The Oracle: may I answer part of this?
[2018/10/06 14:23] Ruggeris Britannicus: Is it because there is a charge (why is there a charge incidentally?)
[2018/10/06 14:23] Ras Parthicus: when Ruggeris is done
[2018/10/06 14:23] Ruggeris Britannicus: Can it be improved?
[2018/10/06 14:31] Sexus The Oracle: historically Rome was the first major melting pot in the world, a community of mixed and multiple nations ideologies and purposes which was complex but depended upon people
[2018/10/06 14:31] Sexus The Oracle: we cannot offer things without people
[2018/10/06 14:31] Sexus The Oracle: done
[2018/10/06 14:31] Ras Parthicus: thank you Sexus
[2018/10/06 14:31] Ras Parthicus: Jin
[2018/10/06 14:32] Jin Prince of Han: Sexus these places can be manned
[2018/10/06 14:32] GaryMike Maximus: /me mumbles a slave/master Grindr in the Welcome Center :)
[2018/10/06 14:33] Sexus The Oracle: hand
[2018/10/06 14:33] Ras Parthicus: finished Jin?
[2018/10/06 14:33] Jin Prince of Han: However people have to take initiative and have ambition to actually plan and coordinate events
[2018/10/06 14:33] Jin Prince of Han: Just not put out a tip jar and wait for random people to pop in
[2018/10/06 14:33] Jin Prince of Han: done
[2018/10/06 14:33] Ruggeris Britannicus: hand
[2018/10/06 14:34] Ras Parthicus: thank you Jin
[2018/10/06 14:34] Cassius: it is not rational to expect newbies to first go to the welcome pack to get landmarks , then try to identify the LM's with those events on the events board---
[2018/10/06 14:34] Sexus The Oracle: nods
[2018/10/06 14:34] Ras Parthicus: before i call on Sexus - if you want to say something please raise your hand to do so
[2018/10/06 14:34] Ras Parthicus: Sexus
[2018/10/06 14:35] Sexus The Oracle: Cassius said part of what I want to say
[2018/10/06 14:35] Sexus The Oracle: also if everyone followed Jin's actions we would have people at Bacchus and at the slave matching center
[2018/10/06 14:35] Sexus The Oracle: the problem is it is NOT being done
[2018/10/06 14:36] Jin Prince of Han: Gentlemen I must take my leave.. Have a good day
[2018/10/06 14:36] Ruggeris Britannicus: Vale dear Jin
[2018/10/06 14:36] Ras Parthicus: Ave Jin
[2018/10/06 14:36] GaryMike Maximus: Vale Jin
[2018/10/06 14:36] Jin Prince of Han: Vale
[2018/10/06 14:36] Janu Shimada Vindelici: Vale Jin
[2018/10/06 14:36] Sexus The Oracle: my own example was to tutor slaves individually, and I did well, but I went nuts when i had too much work and no help
[2018/10/06 14:36] Ras Parthicus: I will butt in there Sexus
[2018/10/06 14:37] Sexus The Oracle: so I trained Cato and Finrod to help me and I wanted to take a rest
[2018/10/06 14:37] Sexus The Oracle: and when I tried to return,.. I was poleaxed by it
[2018/10/06 14:37] Sexus The Oracle: and asked to obey my former trainee or be crucified
[2018/10/06 14:37] Sexus The Oracle: done'
[2018/10/06 14:38] Ras Parthicus: Gentlemen we could talk about this till the cows come home.
[2018/10/06 14:38] Cassius: (sighs), much gotterdammering, but nothing will change---
[2018/10/06 14:38] Sexus The Oracle: hand
[2018/10/06 14:38] Ras Parthicus: but as Senator Rad said we are not going to come up with changes in policy at this meeting.
[2018/10/06 14:39] Ras Parthicus: I propose to send out a verbatim report of this meeting
[2018/10/06 14:39] Sexus The Oracle: hand
[2018/10/06 14:39] Ras Parthicus: and I would also hope that the Tribunate be asked to be involved in getting people together to take in all the suggestions
[2018/10/06 14:39] Sexus The Oracle: nods
[2018/10/06 14:39] Cassius: --nothing from this meeting will be presented to higher authority--one can only hope the Emperor will act on his own!!
[2018/10/06 14:40] Ras Parthicus: this committee to include a cross section of all Romanum people.
[2018/10/06 14:40] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: I will keep track of this
[2018/10/06 14:40] Ras Parthicus: Cassius - do have some faith in the system - it does work believe me
[2018/10/06 14:41] Ras Parthicus: if you have something to say please
[2018/10/06 14:42] Ras Parthicus: sorry about your hand -
[2018/10/06 14:42] Cassius: to whom does this conference report to?
[2018/10/06 14:42] Insatiable Dionysus: my previous hand must have slipped through a crack. So many people have voiced something that I think Romanum could improve on. Now that there are many people wanting to set up cultural "centers", there seems to be lacking a "territory of culture" for Romanum.
[2018/10/06 14:43] Insatiable Dionysus: I have a paragraph of my experience as it was as a "newbie" about 5 years ago, an I still feel it today. not to complain or grind an axe, just express what I encounter.
[2018/10/06 14:43] Insatiable Dionysus: When I first arrived in Romanum, I already had an RP backstory. I found my own backstory of no interest to anyone I met. I was pressured to be mentored by a “mentor.” (The words servus and dominus were not used in my presence until years later.) I was pressured to join a “family” before a mentor would be assigned to me. Therefore, with the following uproar and drama of which family head would “own” me became a super-drama. I “escaped” joining a family and moved into a home and lived here for a while as a “confirmed bachelor.” Eventually I moved my home from Romanum to its current location from the relentless criticism that all the furniture in my house was “just too sex-oriented.” (My name, duh!). I know about Romanum events (even such as this meeting) due to my remaining, personal connections to individuals, not from a general “society” that I can actually determine. Then, ditto Cassius, Sexus, Ruggeris, and Jin. They spoke my remaining sentiments better than I might.
[2018/10/06 14:44] Insatiable Dionysus: I have been "relentless" in my attention to Romanum over the years otherwise I would not be here.
[2018/10/06 14:44] Insatiable Dionysus: Thanks for reading, and "done"
[2018/10/06 14:44] Sexus The Oracle: bravo dio
[2018/10/06 14:44] Sexus The Oracle: well said
[2018/10/06 14:44] Ras Parthicus: Thank you Dionysus
[2018/10/06 14:44] Ras Parthicus: Ruggeris
[2018/10/06 14:45] Ruggeris Britannicus: Three small things
[2018/10/06 14:45] Ruggeris Britannicus: Perhaps Mardrakus would benefit from a couple of deputy slavers to help man his domain
[2018/10/06 14:45] Sexus The Oracle: hand
[2018/10/06 14:46] Ruggeris Britannicus: Janu- is there a way that the calender events on the big board might be linked more definitely to the LMs associated? The current website links are very archaic
[2018/10/06 14:46] Ruggeris Britannicus: (apols if this isnt your area)
[2018/10/06 14:47] Ruggeris Britannicus: And it regrettable that Cato had to leave, I think we might help him also with various things if we looked into it
[2018/10/06 14:47] Janu Shimada Vindelici: I can update the board. But event holders need to keep me updated of changes
[2018/10/06 14:47] Miles Maximus: nods
[2018/10/06 14:47] Ruggeris Britannicus: Yes, i continually try to remind people to consult the schedulers
[2018/10/06 14:47] Ruggeris Britannicus: but as you know...
[2018/10/06 14:47] Ruggeris Britannicus: done
[2018/10/06 14:48] Ras Parthicus: thank you Ruggeris
[2018/10/06 14:48] Janu Shimada Vindelici: Often I see events in Romanum clashing. No-one has discussed scheduling with me, or other co-ordinators
[2018/10/06 14:48] Cassius: overlapping events kill both events
[2018/10/06 14:48] Ras Parthicus: and I think i will close this meeting with the note that Ruggeris and I will approach the Emperor to seek his advice on how best to proceed
[2018/10/06 14:48] Ras Parthicus: Sexus
[2018/10/06 14:49] Ruggeris Britannicus: But we might improve the info link perhaps?
[2018/10/06 14:49] Ras Parthicus: gentlemen
[2018/10/06 14:49] Janu Shimada Vindelici: Thank you Ras!
[2018/10/06 14:49] Ruggeris Britannicus: Ras
[2018/10/06 14:49] Ras Parthicus: I will ask the Emperor if he would like to close the conference
[2018/10/06 14:50] Sexus The Oracle: ?
[2018/10/06 14:50] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Yes..
[2018/10/06 14:50] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: I want to thank everyone again for their participation..
[2018/10/06 14:50] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Done
[2018/10/06 14:51] Ruggeris Britannicus: We have made a start but there is much more to discuss
[2018/10/06 14:51] Ras Parthicus: Thank you Gentlemen - its been nearly two hours of talk but there ae a lot of views - there will be further action on this
[2018/10/06 14:51] Ruggeris Britannicus: Is it your desire that we set up a group for further investigation?
[2018/10/06 14:51] Ras Parthicus: thank you for your participation
[2018/10/06 14:52] GaryMike Maximus: Thank you Ras and Ruggeris
[2018/10/06 14:52] Emperor Stephanus Galtier: Yes, Ruggeris
[2018/10/06 14:52] D. Rad Parthicus: Thank you both
[2018/10/06 14:52] Sƚҽϝ Eɳԃɾιαɠσ Aɳƚσɳιυʂ Dɾαƙσɳ: Thank you all for attending this conference.
[2018/10/06 14:52] D. Rad Parthicus: It is nice to see so many invested in our community
[2018/10/06 14:52] Ruggeris Britannicus: We are grateful for everybody's contributions
[2018/10/06 14:52] Miles Maximus: Awesome exchange of views. Great conference.